Monday, 29 March 2010
True Freedom, As A Freeman On The Land?
Freeman On The Land
This term has been adopted and implemented by people who are fighting to be truly free. Free from Government, free from rules of society that they had nothing to do with setting up and free from legal rulings that are, apparently, not lawful.
I only came across this "movement" a few days ago, and have been trying to read around the subject, trying to get my head around it.
Perhaps any lawyers, police officers or any other people who have intimate knowledge of the law, and who may happen to read this post, could tell me what your take is. It is all very interesting.
My mind is buzzing with the implications...
Okay, so what is it all about?
Well, from what I can make out so far, is that we are being treated as "persons" as opposed to human beings. This can all get very complicated very quickly, so please try and stay with me.
In Common Wealth countries, human beings have certain rights, under common law.
When you are born, and your birth certificate is registered, you the human being is registered as a person and, the implication is, as a commodity of the nation you are born on. A person, according to what I have read under the Freeman On The Land literature, is a legal fiction. All those licences, registrations, bills and debts we pay for are, generally, addressed to the person, not the human being.
For example, some of the literature states that under common law, we are all born equal, and that anything that can be licensed must be lawful. Nothing unlawful can be licensed as it is against the law. So if that which is licensed is already lawful, why then do we, as equal human beings, require permission?
Another example I came across referred to the UK Council Tax. Apparently, there is no element within common law to say it must be paid. Yes, there are statutes and the like, but no law.
Legal and Lawful are distinct and different. Something that is legal may may in the form of, or have the appearance of that which is law. If something is lawful, it has the spirit of the law, not simply the appearance of it.
So, with council tax, it comes down to contracts. There aren't any. No member of the public in the UK sits down with a representative of the local council, sets out and agrees to a contract, with both signing on said contract. It doesn't happen. Therefore, according to the Freeman literature, there is nothing under common law that obliges you, a human being, to pay it.
A part of the Freeman movement is to revoke the idea that you belong to the nation you are born on. As part of a society you consent to the rules and shared goal of that society. Therefore, these individuals have chosen to join the Freeman On The Land Society. They then can live, lawfully, under different rules. Statutes and legal rulings have no bearing on them, because they represent rules of a society they do not belong to. They are still observing common law, but invoking their right to live as human beings, and not as persons.
It seriously blows my mind. If you have heard of this or have any information, please leave a comment. What do you think?
I honestly don't know how valid these ideas are, but anecdotally they seem to be effective.
I have also included links for more information, and some YouTube videos of people who are fighting for freedom by living as men and not as persons.
www.thinkfree.ca
www.fmotl.com
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11 comments:
This is certainly food for thought. I wasn't aware of any of this - thanks for highlighting it. :)
No worries, Matthew.
Apparently some (or all) of it may apply in Australia too...
Woah, this is a little over my head!
Interesting, & worth some more research though!
If this is true, perhaps there is hope yet for the women who have no rights in their own countries & the like, though it would be a brave person to go about living in this way.
Can you post a little more about this if you do look further into it?
BTW 2 whole male followers now, WOOOO!
Hey Dar!
Yea, I will look into it more. It is fascinating.
And LMAO, 2 male followers. HA!
I thought your blog looked interesting, and you are in Oz too, so how could I not follow you?
;-)
Howdy! Here is a police officer perspective from the US. Our Freeman Movements over here are a group of anti-government radicals. Which after watching the videos sounds something like these fellers. The US Freeman protest these same things and want to abide by the Common Law which was derived from the English version way back. Common law marriage, etc. Most of the common laws in the US are now extinct. Some still apply, but most do not. Freeman want to dissolve government and try to live their life without regulations, paying taxes, etc. Here, they only listen to the authority of the Sheriff because he is an elected official. However, many here do not get arrested, but get citations for no vehicle registrations. They also get in trouble with the IRS for not paying taxes. I arrested one for family violence once and got sued in his court...was funny. So...just a little inside knowledge for you.
Hey, just dropping in to say hello. Thanks for stopping by. xx
Interesting post. Love your new look.
Mary
Hey Willow, thank you. Anytime ;-)
Momma, thanks. From what I have read (and I try to be critical of the source) sometimes, these people seem to win their cases.
So you're saying America has evolved their legal system so these...what do I call them...tricks?...don't work?
It is odd they tried to sue you. If I am right, violence is not acceptable under common law, so he would still be under your jurisdiction...
I am glad you left a reply to this Momma. I wanted to know what you thought, but didn't want you to feel put in a position by me asking. I wouldn't do that to you.
I only recently came across this movement. I suppose it has parallels to those people who set up their own country - Sealand?
Thank you Mary,
yeah, had a little make-over.
;-)
Star Child,
You are right in your research. Their movements may work better in other countries. However, in the US, they get away with certain things until they get caught or behind in their taxes. Most of the time the ones around here just protest.
I got sued for "wrongful arrest" in their country court. Which they promptly sent me a notice that I had been found guilty by their judge and they were going to arrest me. It never happened. Then they tried to sue me federally and it got dismissed. It was fun had by all. The guy got 6 years in the county jail though, because he tried to run over his son with the car and beat his wife. So, I'd say, you can figure out who won that one! :)
Sometimes their protesting makes sense like the average people, sometimes they want their own sovereign nation and get off base. The ones I have met personally are all a little strange, but interesting.
Nice blog re do by the way. Sorry to be so wordy.
Thanks Momma. Not wordy at all.
I really appreciate what you have to say.
There are a lot of...unusual people around.
I suppose it makes it an interesting world.
Thanks about the blog re do. I think I have probably done as much with it as I can. My blog template has been maximised to the limit, lol. I think if I wanted to do more I would have to change my template, and I like the one I have.
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